How did Salon?
ARTinvestment.RU   28 октября 2009

Impressions of XXVII Rossiyskogo Antique Salon divided its members - gallery owners from Moscow, St. Petersburg, Paris

impressions of XXVII Rossiyskogo Antique Salon divided its members. In the quiz, held ARTinvestment.RU directly on the stands in the Central House of Artists participating: Mirjana Marichevich, Maricevic Fine Art & Antiques (Moscow); Christina Krasnianskaya, gallery "'Eritazh" (Moscow), Ildar Galeev Galeev-Gallery (Moscow ) Christina Berezovskaja Art Gallery K-Gallery (St. Petersburg), Alexander Belousov, gallery ARGOSS (Paris), Catherine Dolgov, Agency of Russian Art "Art Bureau (Moscow), Sergei Podstanitsky, gallery" Masters "(Moscow ).

Mirjana Marichevich, Maricevic Fine Art & Antiques, owner of Gallery (Moscow)

ARTinvestment.RU: As you walked salon?

Mirjana Marichevich : Very satisfied. There are good sales, new customers who buy with no advisers, no protection. The new atmosphere, new life has come to our antique world. We are very pleased, we hope that in the future will only be even better.

AI: A in comparison with previous salons?

MM: You can not compare at all. This is something else.

AI: And what else? The audience has changed?

MM: The audience has changed. Customers have changed: there were new, quite new, they do not need advisers, to decide on the spot.

AI: Decide because understand?

MM: dealt with, probably, the heart, they believe, even particular about the papers do not ask - just buy what pleases.

AI: What is a buyers price preferences?

MM: We have many interested in expensive work, but we are sold mostly in the range up to 50 thousand dollars. Dear work, we have sold during the Salon Gallery. It turns out that all the same people are not ready to buy at the exhibition.

AI: This is not your customers - this is quite new?

MM: came our clients have come even some of those with whom we agreed at the last Salon, now they have decided to pay our prices. The most important thing for us that there were new customers. We have a lot of optimism, because of these new, I think you can grow these collectors - those who buy the heart, interested in art, those of us here are not enough. People are buying, or for decoration, or for investment, but real collectors were in Soviet times, now this little collectors.

In the year before last and salons, we had meetings with people who had not bought the painting (the possibility they were simply not interested). We managed to interest them, and there already have a real good collection. Yesterday bought Korovin - is the pinnacle of the market. This thing on the stand was not it in our gallery.

We want to ensure that our prices are fair market, so we often visited.

We , when compared with other galleries in Salon, is worth twice cheaper. Maybe because we have it much, maybe because we want Kolesnikov truly returned to Russia. After 1919, in Belgrade, he wrote three thousand great works - and gouaches, probably as much again. We have done an excellent feature-length film about him, used the family archive. Kolesnikov did not return to Russia, although it was a dream of his life. And now we have an exhibition during the International Fair in the Manege, and we will do another exhibition. This work is very serious, we have Sonia (Conya Marichevich Officer galleries. - Ed .) Defended on Kolesnikov, wrote the book. Wait a bit, until the crisis ends.

AI: The crisis has not passed?

MM: Everyone says that it passes. In those days, when the radio talking about the highest price for oil, we sold two paintings. Perhaps this is related, maybe not. Generally, the feeling that some kind of lightness is felt.

At the last Salon of the participants was small, the audience was too little, during working days, no one was quite; commercial, I think he was unsuccessful. Huge corridors between stands, and large beds of flowers. We felt as the grave: no people, no flowers, white lilies here. The feeling is that our world is dying ...

And now something quite different: you see how many people each day, and on weekdays a lot of people. Feels kind of joy. I talked with colleagues: many have been selling, Aivazovsky sold and a lot of good sold at market price, expensive. So, perhaps, the money went in the right direction.

We are pleased to have participated, are satisfied with the results, and we can only expect that in the future will be better.

Christina Krasnianskaya, the owner of the gallery "'Eritazh" (Moscow)

AI: How did Salon?

Christina Krasnianskaya: Wonderful. There was a lot of people, there were interesting displays, exciting exhibit. I think that the crisis has spilled over to the selection of things, the gallery tries to represent himself with the best hand, exhibited some interesting things, beautiful make out the exposition.

AI: And the prices were higher?

KK: How do you say? Salon famous for the fact that prices are always higher than that in principle on the market. In this case, perhaps, a little smaller than usual.

AI: It turns out the general background on prices dropped?

KK: Yes, but not much.

AI: Do you have a sale?

KK: Yes. Chelishchev sold. And there are a couple of reserves. I'm generally a superstitious person, so long as the money in the hands are not ...

AI: how to effectively assess the salon?

KK: In general, yes. Compared with the spring salon definitely perform better in the spring because people were not psychologically ready to invest in art. Now more people, and people are ready to buy.

AI: How has the client, if he has changed?

KK: A new category of people who, perhaps rightly believes that now is the time to invest ...

AI: That's invested, or bought as a collector?

KK: There are collectors who came to life again, and some entirely new category of people who had not bought things. They see them as a matter of investment.

AI: Does it mean that the crisis has ended or ends?

KK: I'm not an economic expert, I do not know, ended or ends, but I think that, certainly, the revival of art market is, the sale is, the transaction is, people are willing to spend money. I will not say to a greater or lesser extent than before - it is clear that the crisis has made some corrections. The good news is that psychologically people are interested, willing, they are interesting. All alive.

AI: Are there any preferences for directions?

KK: have appeared many works by so-called "Russian Abroad". More and more appear every saloon, that we can not but rejoice. There is massive interest in this direction, as well as propaganda, because the galleries are promoting their artists, make their exhibitions, expositions, it is very good.

Ildar Galeev, owner Galeev-Gallery (Moscow)

AI: How did Salon?

Ildar Galeev: expected. I can say that in some cases, even beyond expectations. For all the talk about the current situation, the economic instability finally come to its logical conclusion, and people begin to discuss the quality of products, ie, good quality - poor, rare - not rare, etc. All are gradually moving into discuss the purchase and sale of works, rather than the current financial situation in the country. So it is encouraging and gives rise to some hope that the healing process began.

AI: by red dots I see that it has been very effectively ...

IG: This is not mysticism, it is not a suggestion around that world that something is happening, and this is the real deal. And I do not think that I alone can boast concrete results: talking with colleagues - they have about the same things.

AI: price preferences of consumers?

IG: If we talk about the past salons, when we operate with tens of thousands, now we have come to the six-digit order numbers. Presented here exhibits are in these price range, so for us it is not surprising.

AI: That is money from the people there, or be afraid of their people stopped spending?

IG: I think that the second more clearly.

AI: Does it mean that really begins to end the crisis?

IG: I think he wore local, purely industrial nature and may be partly a bank. With regard to investment in art, then this question has always been true, just now it will be more actively developed, the more lively scenario.

AI: Shared word about the trends that have now become apparent. Two or three years ago prevailed XIX century - 80 percent of submitted pictures. Now it is a bit of work late XIX, mainly the beginning of XX and so on ...

IG: I must say that I notice (and not only I) rising educational level of buyers, people who spend money. And if early XIX century in representations of the people was a bit worn and familiar theme of the picture, but now people would look at the art of the modernist era, 1920-30-ies. I do not know about social realism, about the postwar art, but at least the demand for modernism, Russian modernism, will steadily increase, and I think that is the very real prospect.

AI: How did the audience, in your opinion? Many new? Old? Collectors? Investors?

IG: The audience has changed. I have been approached, even Two young businessmen and asked for recommendations for investment in the arts. I believe that this result is very good, because a year ago, we reported this does not even dreamed of. That is, any signals, attempts to find solid ground under their feet, and says it a lot.

AI: Perhaps you want to add something?

IG: Let's live!

Christina Berezovska, CEO Art Gallery K-Gallery (St. Petersburg)

AI: How did you Salon?

Christina Berezovskaja: Very good. We missed a salon last year. Now we had a very interesting first purchasing activity, and I can very clearly say that it has increased compared to last year.

AI: And you last autumn Salon estimate?

CB: I appreciate the past year in general in terms of crisis, in terms of understanding what happened. And as the St. Petersburg gallery as the set of the Petersburg salons, galleries, for many reasons we decided not to go, but went steadily for five years in Moscow on Antique Salon. This year, we very much thought about whether we care for this salon. Yes, it is interesting, of course, people have woken up and want to invest their money.

AI: Sales have?

CB: Yes, the sale is. I can not say that we sold 50 percent of everything that was taken, but 25 - yes.

AI: Manevich not gone?

CB: According Manevichi we are now waiting for the proposal even better than we do have them.

AI: The audience somehow changed? New? Old? Collectors? Investors? Who are these people?

CB: It surprises me caution potential buyers. What is expressed? .. I do not see any amateur, who came without his adviser. All come with art dealers. All come with art critics, whose opinion is cherished. Buying becomes even more carefully than was done before. Contemplated not that what the price and what does it consist, if not where I can then this work and when to re-sell . Certainly, caution buyers at this time is obvious.

AI: And who are these buyers? People who have already learned to make in the current circumstances? Or those who have kept their money and they are hiding or trying to save?

CB: I can not answer this question. I just can not say that the new buyers, I do not see.

AI: Many people now mark the passage of new buyers.

CB: I noticed the interest, but the new buyers, I did not notice.

AI: price preferences what?

CB: works so-called "artists of the second circle. Prices up to 50 thousand dollars.

AI: Many call this number, although Galeev gallery says the hundreds of thousands.

CB: I am still inclined to think that this is an exception to the rule.

AI: Does this revival at the Salon that the crisis really ended?

CB: I think it says that fear has passed and people have managed in such circumstances to draw conclusions and to live on, the most important thing.

AI: For a range of products, unlike previous Salons noticed? Destination? Genres?

CB: I liked the small number of interesting things that have appeared in the Salon. It is like a small exhibition, a wonderful exhibition of Alexandr Art Group, whose amazing things. Portrait by Grigoriev, for example. Appreciated well Grigoriev gallery "Elysium". And some more work to which you want to come and watch and ask questions, and analyze. Level has risen, that simply delights the eye.

shift from the XIX century to the beginning of the twentieth - is more than logical. I also drew attention to this, but not when comparing the previous salon followed. This is the normal course of development of Russian art. I'm sure we'll meet you here in five years and will talk only of Soviet art.

AI: Socialist realism?

CB: I can not say that only socialist realism worthy of the things the period 1930-70's offered at the salon of Russian art.

Alexander Belous, gallery owner ARGOSS (Paris)

AI: How did Salon?

Alexander Belous: I am very pleased that I had a feeling. I am at the Salon for the first time. I am very glad that I recognized experts. Before that I had more "underground" life in Paris, but many know me. On your forum, by the way, I have already congratulated the people (once they found out it was me). It calls go through your site: you, say, for us for all collectors, who now, maybe not a good financial situation, fight back. I am very happy.

AI: There is a sale?

AB: Yes, there are sales and will be more. For new meetings are scheduled.

AI: What kind of price preferences of those who came to buy?

AB: Up to a hundred thousand dollars. But I already feel sorry to sell some things. Especially since I'm the euro has smoothly passed to the dollar, so as not to shock the word "euro" the public that the euro's scary. I advise colleagues and I made such a gesture. I seem to be gone. Even, they say: cheap.

AI: Who are the buyers, in your opinion? Collectors? Investors?

AB: I have a few collectors take, ie, people who understand. Couple those who accidentally entered. But the main interest from dealers, professionals who represent someone, for someone working who are here simply never arrived. I see little direct buyers. Two or three people who bought myself: a professor, director, wife liked to do himself the pleasure - such a little, earlier, say colleagues, there was more.

AI: The success of Interior said that the crisis ends?

AB: Yes, I did not feel it at all, because I was busy with work, quickly responded. For us this is not reflected ...

AI: Because you do not live in Russia?

AB: Yes, everything is stable. For example, here I put Lansky. Price ridiculous. I offered to buy it in Paris at the same price, and there it was easier to sell: no need to carry. But I did not give because she wanted to set. Then, perhaps, ever leave you. In Paris, I can sell the more expensive it is theoretically doubled. Here, at this salon, a lot of it has appeared.

AI: The difference between France and Russia? All prices are in the activity? Does it make sense to go here?

AB: My Theme - this is Russian emigre artists, that is completely the whole emigration, so I came here to update your customer base a little. I think I did it, because there were some serious contacts, people have appreciated my professionalism, and I am enough.

Catherine Dolgov, director of the Agency on the Russian Art "Art Bureau (Moscow)

AI: The overall impression of the Salon?

Catherine Dolgov: A lot of good things, a lot of good collections, which had not been on the market. Apparently, there is redistribution of cultural values.

AI: How do you assess the overall level of the Salon?

ED: The level is good. Visitors come a lot, and many new collectors. Then came all the old, which in the last two salons such as the disabled went looking pictures. This suggests that the crisis is over, that interest in the paintings, to invest in paintings like rose.

AI: It is to invest?

ED: And to invest, and to the paintings themselves. Because in the last two salons are all complaining.

AI: People are used to crisis, have learned to earn, or simply ceased to be afraid to spend?

ED: Do not learned, but people have got better things. Many just sprang, improving their own affairs, and has begun to move.

AI: price preferences of consumers?

ED: I do not stand for very expensive items, so I can not say about the ceiling prices. I know that my colleagues have sold very expensive things.

AI: Some people get up to 50 thousand, someone said about the hundreds of ...

ED: One hundred well sold. I'm talking about millions - I have no work at the stand. I know that Dadiani, in my opinion, sold some millions of things - Grigoriev, for example. Maybe they lost a certain number, but their money back, then there is already a good price. Many such. My colleague from St. Petersburg on the first day of the Salon sold very expensive Serebryakov. Big money.

AI: Preferences audience changed somehow?

ED: unequivocally, XX century. All - XX century.

AI: People come directly to a purchase, or with some advisers, dealers?

ED: And so and so.

Sergei Podstanitsky, art gallery director "Masters" (Moscow)

AI: My general impression from the Salon?

Sergei Podstanitsky : It is lively, a good salon. A good many. I'm here as an exhibitor for the first time, had participated as a buyer, as an outside observer.

AI: Sales have?

SP: Yes, the sale is where a quarter of the works sold.

AI: What you say about the audience?

SP: The public - as always, the usual. Investors, collectors. Investors are less invested, and go the same way on the Salon, as well as all the rest.

AI: The crisis, in your opinion, is over?

SP: If not ended, then at least in part because the art market had emerged.

AI: price preferences of consumers?

SP: It does not matter if only the thing was good. People are now willing to buy.

AI: This suggests that they have ceased to be afraid to spend the money that had been, or have learned to make new?

SP: I think that the one and another, all very individually. Common response in this case, no.

ARTinvestment.RU thank all the gallery owners, shared his impressions of the XXVII Rossiyskogo Antique Salon.